2'-oxo-pcm aka deschloroketamine aka dxe

[land shark]

I recall that most of the drugs that disassociate are best on minimal if no food in the tummy. Nausea is common if a full stomach and taking decent amounts of k... I think most drugs other than alcohol are best with less rather than more foodin the tummy.

Lol, interesting experience about the darker elements. Please do report back as it would be interesting to know if it is recreated...

Are you concerned about some of the reports relating to this being antibiotic?

It is certainly an odd claim and not much concrete info, in fact most seems to support infrqent and less than moderate use is unllikley to have an impact - but it's interesting it has even been raised.

How would you rate it to say diphenidine, k or mxe? (Sorry for all the questions!)

[choom]

I think the concern with it being an antibiotic is more a population level thing.

[Dr_rastashroom]

I recall that most of the drugs that disassociate are best on minimal if no food in the tummy. Nausea is common if a full stomach and taking decent amounts of k... I think most drugs other than alcohol are best with less rather than more foodin the tummy.

Lol, interesting experience about the darker elements. Please do report back as it would be interesting to know if it is recreated...

Are you concerned about some of the reports relating to this being antibiotic?

It is certainly an odd claim and not much concrete info, in fact most seems to support infrqent and less than moderate use is unllikley to have an impact - but it's interesting it has even been raised.

How would you rate it to say diphenidine, k or mxe? (Sorry for all the questions!)

I'm not overly worried about the possible antibiotic side of things, the evidence is fairly inconclusive and seems to be more of a legal technicality for applying a patent with only a small medical study that was pretty questionable at best. I still wouldn't do a 2 week bender on the stuff, just in case.
I haven't tried k but I would say mxe, deschloroketamine then diphenidine. I like all three but mxe is definitely my favourite drug of all time.

[land shark]

I am very lucky to have tried deschloroketamine a couple of times.

It seems to be active beyond placebo at around 15mg. It isn't as "fun" as mxe, I think because if the lack of apparent opiod type effect. Not really sure, why.

It is a great tool tho. I find it less useful for recreational uses but more for lovely introspection.
Oral is slightly more potent than insufflation (snorting) so 25mg snorted would be closer to 20mg oral.

A lovely chem tho, seriously. I believe slightly more depth than ketamine, although I had more experience with the s isomer more than racemic.
Dxe is a bit warm, a potent teacher, a good experience and a nice chem all around.
Please do use with caution tho. The frequency to manifest an issue from its rumoured antibiotic properties aren't something to be ignored.

I strongly suggest occasional use with weeks' breaks just to be sure.