2'-oxo-pcm aka deschloroketamine aka dxe

[Dr_rastashroom]

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I thought I would give a brief summary of my high dose deschloroketamine trip.
I orally dosed between 75-85mg.
At around the 30min mark my coordination was becoming fairly impaired, I deadlocked the door because I knew I would be way to high to work out a lock if I decided to go outside, I also pulled out the spare mattress, got water and smokes.
The pre-hole electro buzzing was strong. By 1hour walking was practically impossible without help from leaning on the wall.
Time goes out the window here, all I could remember about myself was that I was alive and I had consumed a drug. The hallucinations began, for around 45-60mins all I could see was a rough copper/brown, liquid metal sphere that was electro buzzing and spinning, and images of poverty stricken people, rotting meat, fly-blown carcasses, bones, urine and poop, blood, semen, really dark imagery, kinda all flashing as quarter second images while the weird sphere did its thing, this seemed to be the essence of life in a fucked up disso hole way. The helicopter like buzzing was super pronounced on deschloroketamine. It was as amazing as it was disturbing.
After what I would guess was 2hours the buzzing settled down, I could see a black expanse that was filled with perfectly spaced single molecules lined up in a grid like formation, one molecule dropped out of place and before long all the molecules were collapsing inwards. The centre of the collapse slowly got denser and denser until it exploded, holy shit I just witnessed the creation of and explosion of the big bang.
At around 4 1/2 hours the d-hole wound down to what I would consider similar to the m-hole, a hovering, spacey, floating, spinning, shrinking then expanding, body bending/ stretching kinda zone with colourful patterning.
At around 6 hours I still had very little idea of who or what I was until I felt the urge to empty my stomach, I vomited pretty violently after kinda drag/crawling my way to the bathroom and continued, I was layed out on the bathroom floor in that kinda m-hole zone.
After around 7 hours I was in and out of consciousness, kinda sleeping for 15mins on and off and still very dissociated and lacking most physical coordination. After I'd say 10 hours I was heavily hung over and off balance but coming back around, I felt like crap for a solid 48 hours after the experience.

This experience was very hard to put into words and judge the timeframe but I dosed around 10:30pm, vomited around 4:30am and started dropping in and out of sleep 6-7am.
Hope this gives people a feel for how far out deschloroketamine can take you. I have had a lot of mind bending pyschedelic experiences and this one was super crazy. I strongly advise against high doses for unexperienced pyschedelic/disso users. Feel free to ask questions people.

[JellyOhJoy]

wow... what you described was something far from intense for most people.. scary to be precise.. and as always thank you so much for the detailed report! stay safe my man

[leeroy]

I might give that one a miss......
so sick off tripping.....

[sdoc96]

Wow. That sounds mad. Shame I am in no position to blank out several days for something like this.
Sounds even more intense than my first real acid trip back in the early 90s.
I'll be interested if you get flashbacks over the coming weeks/months like I did with good acid. I remember having to pull over a few times weeks after for about 10 mins.
Never tried K nor been in the hole before.

[Dr_rastashroom]

I crave escapism Leeroy, lucky the majority of drugs that make you trip aren't physically addictive.
But I get you, some people find their answers with psychedelic substances and call it a day.

[land shark]

Disassociatives are far from tripping.

DMT, this is a powerful drug. Salvia, this can also be immensely "other-worldly"
I haven't been to others worlds/existences or had unspeakable visuals on any disassociative.

I'm sure it's possible, I mean cutting of sensations while leaving the brain active is going to increase the perceptive abilities of whatever is functioning by default.

My point being is dissacoiatives aren't tripping. Oh and if you do decide to go higher doses I think it's very different from LSD. (Not really qualified to say this in detail as I haven't ever had such an experience - even after some severe amounts of k 12 or so years ago.) But I have experienced. High doses of LSD and many other psychedelics and these are simply a different world.

Great, deep report Rastashroom.

[land shark]

Rastashroom, is this the most Intense experience you have had? Also, was it unpleasant or scary at any point?
Lastly was there any all encompassing feeling of unity or peace during? I'm keen to understand the emotional aspects as well as the sensed ones...

[Dr_rastashroom]

Hard to say, it was an intense experience but I was pretty much unaware of myself at the time, so it wasn't hard to deal with.
After coming out of the hole the aftereffects were unpleasant but just in that hungover, feeling shit kinda way.
All encompassing is the perfect way to describe the hole, i was engulfed in another dimension.
Emotion melts away when you are so dissociated you lose the idea of being or yourself being a living thing.
Hope this helps mate.

I should add that at 30mg the effects were pretty comfortable and more physical dissociation. Floaty, warm, slight loss of depth perception and the aftereffects were no way near as bad as a hole dose. Just an afterglow.

[land shark]

Thanks mate. This does help. I haven't ever had such an experience that rivals DMT (lol or 5meoDMT for that matter) etc with disassociatives. I have had some strong experience including with ketamine but nothing as far removed.

Those post effects did sound very full on. Are you thinking thatsuch a high dose is likely to induce severe nausea and other effects in others or do you think it was more your own body. (Difficult question of course!)

Your report is very well written, if you haven't yet please consider sharing with drugs forum and bluelight as it will help a lot to contribute to the current lowish amounts of reports.

Lastly would you re do this level, visit higher or not recommend either?

[Dr_rastashroom]

I think dosing on an empty stomach is the key with this one, it won't help the hangover but it will stop the vomiting, it might also shorten the duration a bit, it might help the hangover too by making it easier for your body to metabolise a bit quicker.

I will definitely go for another hole dose again, I'm really interested to see if this chemical manifests dark imagery or if it was just something lingering in the back of my mind that caused a dark experience.